in a debate it's going to be difficult. he has two alpha males. mitt romney and barack obama trying to stay out of it. really fade to the back as much as possible but keep control over two men who have very little regard for time constraints and each other's speaking times is going to be difficult. >> let's talk about that. romney had a lot of debates going into this with the candidates that were trying to get nominated. and president obama likes to interrupt. romney is rigid and stays on track. how do these two face off without ticking each other off i guess? >> i don't think they do. i think we see sparks fly. when he was getting interrupted by them. again, president obama interrupted john mccain routinely back in 2008. so we really have a recipe for some snujing back and forth. i don't know jim is going to be able to prevent that. it is a bigger deal for romney because he's behind in the polls and had that gaff a couple weeks ago. come off looking good or fall further in the pack >> that seems to be the general consensus. obama seems to be able